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Sigfrid Bernal's avatar

I am grateful for the reflections that are shared and enrich our view from the present. In my case, I do not have the qualities or training of a historian, but I am still amazed by the handling of data, and how information builds meanings.

In reference to Churchill's attitude and his global decisions during WW2, I am no one to judge them and much less to say if they are divine or not, but it is necessary to review the data and the links, now that we have perspective and then draw conclusions.

British military fatalities were about 350,000, plus 70,000 civilians.

Indian military fatalities were about 90,000, plus 2,000,000 civilians.

There are sources that suggest that the death toll from the 1943 Bengal famine amounted to 4,000,000 because of political and economic decisions linked to Churchill's management of the war.

Could this be considered divine collateral effects or a full-fledged imperialist genocide?

As always, everyone will draw their own conclusions based on the information they have access to.

With thanks,

an apprentice

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“The Kalinga country was conquered by King Priyadarshi, Beloved of the Gods, in the eighth year of his reign. One hundred and fifty thousand persons were carried away captive, one hundred thousand were slain, and many times that number died. [..]

The Beloved of the Gods, conqueror of the Kalingas, is moved to remorse now. For he has felt profound sorrow and regret because the conquest of a people previously unconquered involves slaughter, death, and deportation.

But there is a more important reason for the King's remorse [..] friends, acquaintances, companions, relatives, slaves, and servants, all suffer from the injury, slaughter and deportation inflicted on their loved ones. Even those who escaped calamity themselves are deeply afflicted by the misfortunes suffered by those friends, acquaintances, companions, and relatives for whom they feel an undiminished affection. Thus all men share in the misfortune, and this weighs on King Priyadarshi's mind. [..]

Therefore, even if the number of people who were killed or who died or who were carried away in the Kalinga war had been only one one-hundredth or one one-thousandth of what it actually was, this would still have weighed on the King's mind.

King Priyadarshi now thinks that even a person who wrongs him must be forgiven for wrongs that can be forgiven.

King Priyadarshi seeks to induce even the forest peoples who have come under his dominion to adopt this way of life and this ideal. He reminds them, however, that he exercises the power to punish, despite his repentance, in order to induce them to desist from their crimes and escape execution. For King Priyadarshi desires security, self-control, impartiality, and cheerfulness for all living creatures.

King Priyadarshi considers moral conquest the most important conquest.”

(King Ashōka, Rock Edict, XIII, 230 B.C.)

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