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Not only is the need to deal with over three dimensions a problem, but two entire undergraduate courses (eg Cohen) have to be dedicated to “solve” the two-body problem, just to end up with a succinct note to refer that for the rest, a suitable “approximation” would be needed. This would be very well if the entire universe were made of just one hydrogen atom but, unfortunately for us, it is not. And someone still pretends to explain (explain away!) consciousness from that?

Physics should say to the rest of science what the West might one day say to the World: sorry for the rough ride, we were just tinkering a bit here and there, it didn’t work out well, you shouldn’t have paid us so much attention, good luck!

Things that only function once you are forced to ignore or abandon everything else are not truthful, and you might do so at your own risk.

Btw, regarding the epistemology of the modern scientific enterprise, of which whole libraries have been written, I haven’t found a better critical account of first hand sources than EA Burtt’s “The Metaphysical Foundations of Modern Science”.

“All I would claim is that those who in the search for truth start from consciousness as a seat of self-knowledge with interests and responsibilities not confined to the material plane, are just as much facing the hard facts of experince as those who start from consciousness as a device for reading the indications of spectroscopes and micrometers.” (AS Eddington, The Nature of The Physical World, 1928, p.288)

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Many thanks for your ample comments on Carroll's book. I appreciated reading the book because it illustrates once again the difficulties when trying to understand what is quantum mechanics by projecting science on the screen of philosophy (without being trained in philosophy...) and how we end up with contradictions and inconsistencies.

For me one of the major results of quantum physics is the fact that object and observer cannot be considered as being independent. Our way of experiencing the world around us depends on the way we look at it - we are the cocreators of the reality we live in. If this is so, our philosophical concept of the world and its functioning appear according to the light (science) that we project. This light is the result of our past experience and our expectations (or wishful thinking). So it seems to me that science (the study of the structure and behaviour of nature) and philosophy (the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge) cannot be considered as independent; they are entangled in some way. In other words, the way I perform scientific studies depends on my philosophical approach and my scientific experience feeds back into the philosophical attitude. This is not "conflating science with philosophy"; the process describes a kind of evolving lemniscates.

Yes, "making sense of a scientific theory isn't a scientific problem", except if we define "science" in terms of a more global or even integral approach to reality.

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